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1月10日 Slovenia vs Croatia Living in Ljubljana, it is not uncommon to get caught up in the middle of the feeling of antipathy that runs mutually between Slovenes and Croats.
Usually it is to do with something political, like the border dispute over the coastline, or why Slovenia should be doing more to help Croatia into the European Union. Almost every night of the week the evening news shows pictures of politicians from both sides of the border basically just trash-talking the other side.
Of course, living with Slovenes has led my sympathies to lay entirely on the side of my adopted homeland. Also the fact that Slovenia doesn't seem to be doing much more than trying to keep the small piece of coastline they have from the expansionist reach of Croatia also does a little to push the vote in their favour.
The Slovenia/Croatia disputes that we hear about on the news and read about in the papers are however of an entirely different nature to the ones you will hear discussed by the man in the pub, the housewife at the market, or the student in the pizzeria. The tones becomes a little less political, and a little more personal.
There is a genuine dislike felt from each side towards the neighbour. Generally, this ill-feeling is stronger on the Croat side, or so I believed until recently when I started hearing more and more the insults directed from this side of the border.
Yesterday I came across a hugely entertaining forum debating which country is better, Slovenia or Croatia. It is a page that is just filled with insults and slurs, some disguised as political points, others not even taking the time or effort to pretend not to be what they blatantly are; Words of war.
It seems to start tamely enough, comparing such mundane things as inflation, GDP, unemployment, etc. But it isn't long before things start taking the usual turn for the more distasteful.
The Slovenes play the game largely by the book, trying to keep the debate somewhere within the boundaries of common decency. The Croats respond in the subtle way that they have become famous for. I quote;
put my junk in your mouth.
oh and 400km of coastline vs 48km....hmmmmmn.... Larger army than Slovenia.... Larger population than slovenia... Larger kurac's than slovenia
Then, as you would expect from any red-blooded patriotic Slovene, the comeback is equally intelectual; Gotovina, go suck on your moms hairy COCK!!!!! And let the free-for all begin. Both countries get compared to how Russia looked 40 years ago, both countries get called words that I wouldn't dare utter in front of my mother, and both countries get threats of violence made against them. All in all, it's got to be one of the funniest debates I've read for a long long time. Enjoy it here. One point that I feel I have to make is this. One argument raised by the Croat side is that if it wasn't for Croatia becoming independent and fighting the war and everything else, then it never would have been possible for Slovenia to gain independence. Now, I am sure that Slovenia was the first to declare itself free from Yugoslav rule, a move that upset Croatia immensely at the time because it meant that they too had no other alternative but to leave the federation and to go to war with the JNA. So, really you could argue that if it wasn't for Slovenia gaining independence, Croatia would never have had the balls to push for their own independence and therefore would still be a lapdog to the controlling Serb majority. This is of course just a hyperthetical argument, but I thought I'd stick it in anyway. Another thing the Croats seem to think is something to brag about over the Slovenes is that they had a war and Slovenia didn't. Wow, how jealous the Slovenes must be that their country and people weren't destroyed.
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